Reposting this a thread on the ZBB:

You may have noticed that I’m not much of a conlanger, but sometimes I do get the hankering for something (I mean, that’s what I’m here for). But conlangs are a bit too elaborate and they take too much effort for very little gain (which is why I like neographing better: immediate results), and I don’t have the patience for it.

But I’ve been thinking for longer times that there should be more intermediate stages of conlang complexity. We start from simple language games, like Pig Latin, go through those intermediate stages (like, say caesarean codes that are readable because substitutions are made in such a way that the structure of the text remains language-like: vowels for vowels, etc.).

I’m currently planning/working on a small game project (check out my flatworld thread you guys) I’m thinking of writing in Ren’py. It’s going to be similar to one of the greatest glorantha-based clan politics simulators, King of Dragon Pass, except Finnic instead of Celtic, and with a splash of Dorf Fortress.

For the purposes of keeping everything simple, the naming-lang I’m going to use in the game will be simply a simple sound-change list applied to Old Finnic, based on modern Finnish texts.

I call it


Use as a basis Old Finnish, with some sound changes reversed: diphtongisation, consonant gradation, ti > si and e# > i#, for one. Also suppose certain lenited consonants are left, like -t/D- and many -s-es.

Merge front vowels into back vowels, who needs those!
ä > a, y > u, ö > o
In modern Finnish, -nen alternates with -se-. So crazy. I think it’s from -ńśen- or something similar, but eh.
-{nen} > ne
Finnish -lle, the whateverite case is a fun example of analogy: sna > ssa, lna > lla, sta > sta, lta > lta, so len > lle (its counterpart in the -s- cases is -Vn or sV:n, etc, which makes it slightly weird). Here, we’ll have the same analogy take place, just to keep it simple:
len > “lne”
v > w just cuz w is cooler
Voicing of plosives attached to a nasal
Single consonants between vowels are voiced
Geminates are shortened (in this order, obviously)
h > 0
The second syllable of a root is lost if the coda is not heavy or too heavy consonant clusters are formed, lots of fudging is involved.
voiced consonant + voiceless > voiced geminate
l > n / _m _p _t _k _w (this bit is shamelessly stolen from Udmurt… though I know it only because the equivalent of Ilmarinen in udmurtian mythology is Inmar)
r# > l
k#, ks, kt > ć /tS/
t# > i
m# > w > u
sn > z (this to have something else than -ssa, which is pretty distinctive… And reminds people of quenya)
n# > l
st > ś [S]
sk > śt
sp > śp
nt# > n (a good chance to reintroduce word final n, and to fix a word that contained “cunt” in it :| )
Nasal assimilation, except for !nm and some other stuff I haven’t thought of yet.

Example sentence, with before and after:

[b]The Universal Declaration of Lorem Ipsum[/b]
[i]Kaikki ihmiset syntyvät vapaina ja tasavertaisina arvoltaan ja oikeuksiltaan. Heille on annettu järki ja omatunto, ja heidän on toimittava toisiaan kohtaan veljeyden hengessä.[/i]
Caić inminei sundwai wabaina ya taswertainina arwontāl ya oigeućintāl. Einne ol andetu yarc ya ondund, ya eidal on tointawa toināl cotāl weleudel engeza.

[b]First and second stanza from the first rune of the Kalevala[/b]
[i]Mieleni minun tekevi, aivoni ajattelevi lähteäni laulamahan, saa’ani sanelemahan, sukuvirttä suoltamahan, lajivirttä laulamahan. Sanat suussani sulavat, puhe’et putoelevat, kielelleni kerkiävät, hampahilleni hajoovat.[/i]
Mienni minul tegwi laddani launmāl, sanni sanmāl, sugwirdda sōntmāl, laiwirdda launmāl, sant sūz’ni sumwai, puēt pudelwai, cēlnneni cercawai, ambasinneni aiwai.
Veli kulta, veikkoseni, kaunis kasvinkumppalini!
Lähe nyt kanssa laulamahan, saa kera sanelemahan
yhtehen yhyttyämme, kahta’alta käytyämme!
Harvoin yhtehen yhymme, saamme toinen toisihimme
näillä raukoilla rajoilla, poloisilla Pohjan mailla.[/i]
Welcun, weicneni, caunis caswincumplini!
La nui canza launmāl, sal cel sallemāl
ućel ućtuamme, caćyanta caudamme!
Arwoil ućeu ućumme, sāmme toine toinimme
nainna raucinna rainna, polininna Poyal mainna.

[b]A bit from the fi.wikipedia article on Väinämöinen, the Eternal Sage and the dirty old man of Finnic mythology (plus the Demiurge and creator of the world)[/b]
[i]Monissa kansanrunoissa Väinämöinen on olemassa jo ennen maailmaa. Hän auttaa maailman luomisessa. Väinämöisen syntymästä kerrotaan joko, että hän syntyi yksin, tai että hänet synnytti Iro-neito. Eräässä yleisessä kansanrunossa Väinämöinen syntyy yöllä, tekee päivällä pajan, takoo rautaisen hevosen, ja ratsastaa sillä veden päällä. Katkera lappalainen (sama kuin Kalevalan Joukahainen) ampuu Väinämöisen hevosen selästä alkumereen. Monissa myyttisissä kertomuksissa toistuva pohjoisessa olevan pahan maan (Lapin tai Pohjolan) ja “omien” tai “hyvien” vastakkainasettelu on siis olemassa jo ennen maailmaa.[/i]
Moniza canzanrunoiza Wainmaine ol onmaza jo endel māinmada. Al audda māinmal lōmneza. Wainmainel sundmaś cerddāl yog, eta al sundi ućn, tai eta alt sunddi Ir-neī. Ersaza ulineza canzanrunoza Wainmaine sundu uonna, tege paiwanna pajau, tago raudineu ebneu, ya ratsastā sinna wedl pānna. Catcra lapplaine (sau cuil Calwalal Youcaineu) ambu Wainmaineu ebneu sencäś ancmerel. Moniza mūtniza certmućiza toiśuwa pojineza olwal pāl māl (Lapil tai Poilal) ja “omiel” tai “uwiel” waśacainastelu ol sīs onmaza yo endel māinmada.

The purpose of this whole exercise is to create a simple conlangette or codelang. It should be so simple that if someone is foolish enough, they could learn how to translate from Finnish into this quite easily. Yet, at the same time it was a different look to it, and it isn’t immediately obvious to an untrained foreign eye that this is Finnish.

Some names I’ve made up, I mean, this *is* a naming lang:
Väinätär (female version of a Väinä-based named… A version of Väinämöinen would literally be Väinämätär, I guess, but nah.) > Waindal
Ilmari or Ilmar (root in Ilmarinen) > Inmal.. Maybe I’ll have an Inmadal or Indal Lemb, Lembingaine?


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